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Dec 5, 2012 1:00pm PST
. a pair of esteemed washington writers, jonathan capehart and dana milbank, political columnist. welcome to both of you. if i can start with you,รง jonathan, paul ryan and marco rubio spoke to a group of conservatives last night. they talked about helping the poor get into the middle class. in fact, i think we have a shot of paul ryan helping the poor. yes, there he is, in a soup kitchen during a campaign photo op. as we know, it was all just talk. when are we going to start hearing substance from these men or any republicans, for that matter? >> paul ryan would say he's been talking substance for a long time on these issues. it's just that we don't like what he's saying. we don't like his prescriptions for how he would help the poor. personally, i think paul ryan -- >> how does it help the poor by stripping meals on wheels, remove pell grants, how does that help the poor? >> that's a question for congressman ryan. i'm telling you from his mindset, his perspective, one way to help people and the economy is to ensure the country is on sound financial fiscal footing. the way he wants to g
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